Wow, thanks a lot! That's incredibly useful ^^
Bruckner8 wrote:IMSLP is purely a technical platform. It does not need a single person to be paid to do anything, unless, or until, the copyright issues become a central tenet of its operation. Even so, that has already been dealt with, and volunteer members have picked up that slack, calling themselves "Copyright Reviewers."
Thus, 100% of IMSLP's cost is its technical implementation: Web Hosting.
That's it. The End.
That can run anywhere from $4/month for static website, hosted on virtual servers, to $400/month for a dedicated server with multi-processors! For the simple needs of IMSLP (nothing more than a glorified upload/download site with wiki-based front-end.), it should be around $30/month!!
That's less than $4500/year.
And Ed's having trouble fundraising to that amount?
Granted, all of this moot, if Ed's goal is to make money. He's allowed to do that. It's his vision, his site, and his alone. I just wish he'd quit pretending he's providing a wonderful, magnanimous service, lol. Imagine Ed on the gold course, talking to his buddies: "I just sit back whilst these rabid volunteers upload stuff, and equally-rabid musicologists pay to download the same stuff! It's January 25th and my hosting is already paid for the year! Pure profit from here on out, baby!"
Darn, I'm just sour that I didn't think of it first, lol.
KGill wrote:Bruckner8 wrote:IGranted, all of this moot, if Ed's goal is to make money. He's allowed to do that. It's his vision, his site, and his alone. I just wish he'd quit pretending he's providing a wonderful, magnanimous service, lol. Imagine Ed on the gold course, talking to his buddies: "I just sit back whilst these rabid volunteers upload stuff, and equally-rabid musicologists pay to download the same stuff! It's January 25th and my hosting is already paid for the year! Pure profit from here on out, baby!"
Darn, I'm just sour that I didn't think of it first, lol.
Now I hope you're kidding about this, because this is just not fair. I have some serious issues with Edward's membership plan too, and his lack of almost any sort of disclosure is frustrating, but that's no excuse to smear the guy.
Bruckner8 wrote:Did you see the two "lol"s? This is entertainment for me.
Starrmark wrote:The most effective and painless way to fund IMSLP on a long term basis would be an annual fund-raising campaign through Kickstarter or IndieGogo. (I prefer IndieGogo because they permit the entity raising funds to keep the donations even if the campaign does not reach its stated goal. However, Kickstarter has wider participation than IndieGogo.)
For any fund-raising campaign to be effective, it must be carefully and attractively presented, with exact figures on how the money will be spent and by whom, statistics on the significance of the organization receiving the contributions, testimonials and reviews, and historical track record.
Also important are perks awarded to contributors (the greater the contribution, the more alluring the perk.) Perks would be easy for IMSLP: a free printed copy of an original manuscript, recordings, or a set of famous works like Beethoven's Symphonies or Bach's Brandenburg Concertos.
It would be both essential and easy for IMSLP to promote such a voluntary fund-raising campaign among its users on its website, in addition to the promotion on the fund-raising website. Fund-raising promotion on IMSLP would essentially be free. And given the enormous number of users and browsers on IMSLP every day, its reach would be global. Either Kickstarter or IndieGogo would take care of financial management of the fund-raising campaign.
Tax-deductibility for contributions is not a requirement for either Kickstarter or IndieGogo, but it can be a significant inducement. This might be a factor in IMSLP's decision possibly to become a non-profit organization. I should note that running a Kickstarter or IndieGogo campaign does not preclude using additional income producing methods, such as web advertisements or direct donations from foundations, etc.
Because IMSLP is such a valuable, useful, free musical resource on a global scale, it could, I believe, attract a substantial amount of contributions through a well-managed website fund-raising campaign. In my opinion, it should set a goal of a considerably high sum that would include not only operating expenses, but also funds for an office and a small staff, and future growth.
Rhonda-mt wrote:I'm fine with the subscription idea (though a bit bemused by the amount, wouldn't rounding it up to $25 have been simpler?).
I had a slight problem with the member information form though.
Is "the language I'm comfortable with" meant to be filled in with a language I can read (in a score, at least) or one in which I might be expected to post? (Oops, if the former I forgot Italian. Silly me.)
LilyJAnderson wrote:In addition to the short downloading "wait" time, which seems a little silly, I have also recently experienced other more serious difficulties with the downloads as well, that were not present in the past.
imslp wrote:mmacauley wrote:As a long-time IMSLP user I would be glad to contribute towards server costs if the relevant information were made public. For example, what are the ongoing costs, how much has been donated and how much is stll needed towards certain targets. Despite the advice of your librarian contacts I have yet to be convinced of the need for a paid staff to maintain what remains (as I understand it) a wiki-based community archive. Maintaining and staffing a physical archive, it seems to me, would be a quite different matter.
This goes back to my point earlier actually. Sorry to be blunt, but why do you believe you have the standing to comment on the need for paid staff, when you haven't contributed a single edit?
Boccaccio wrote:Just a thought: Can I start creating a number of new accounts, upload a decent number of files, get a contributor membership and then sell those accounts on the black market?
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