Mediawiki Score Extension.

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Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby Sfan00 » Thu May 09, 2013 3:12 pm

Hi IMSLP

Recently some work on a score extension for MediaWiki was seemingly completed.

It is now possible (assuming you can understand Lilypond markup) to directly place music notation into wiki pages!!

Example: http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?ti ... al.djvu/32

Extension details:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score

I thought this might be of interest to IMSLP users :) ~~~~

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby pierre.chepelov » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:44 pm

Hi all,
I was about to ask for the same thing: I would love to be able to put a few notes in the wiki pages, especially in those beginning by "List of works by..."
Thematical catalogues are so superior to simple catalogues!

Personally, I'd like to work on this one: http://imslp.org/wiki/Talk:Chorale_Harm ... _Sebastian) :)
And maybe on this one also: http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Franz_Abt ;-)

It could be also useful to be able to display themes on work pages, somehow the way RISM do...

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby Carolus » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:10 pm

The potential for creation of composer work catalogues is tremendous. Fantastic news.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby cypressdome » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:28 pm

Apparently, Feldmahler has now made this available on IMSLP. An example of one use on individual work pages is to add the line |Incipit= in the general information section and then add your Lilypond markup. The musical incipit will appear in the top portion of the work page. An example can be seen for Viotti's Violin Concerto No.23.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby imslp » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:29 pm

Also, I've added a "zoom" setting which defaults to 80 (the standard of 100 looks a bit big I think) but can be between 20-800. (See IMSLP:Sandbox.)

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby horndude77 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:53 pm

Cool (I just played with it: http://imslp.org/wiki/Horn_Sonata,_Op.17_(Beethoven,_Ludwig_van)).

Is it possible to have multiple on a page (one for each movement)?

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby imslp » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:29 am

Yep - however many you want.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby wrshannon » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:44 pm

Is it possible to do a 4-voice keyboard incipit? I tried it with a working Lilypond file, but got nothing but text spread around the page. I could have missed something, of course. It would be nice to have a template if someone (sharper than me) could develop one.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby pierre.chepelov » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:25 pm

How wonderful! Thank you!

Just one thought: prior to today the |Incipit= field was used for ''text'' incipits; maybe it is not the best thing to do to fill it with ''musical'' incipits.
Is it possible to create something like a |Musical or a |Thematic Incipit? And/or to rename all previous |Incipits as |Text Incipits or something similar? −before there is too much confusion between both sorts of incipits.

BTW I'm playing here: http://imslp.org/wiki/Talk:Chorale_Harmonisations,_BWV_1-438_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian) ;-)

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby Davydov » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:15 pm

The text incipits could be placed in the "Alternative Title" field, where most of them are already.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby Generoso » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:29 pm

This is really cool!

There is so much potential with this.

Good job Feldmahler!

Update: I've added these to http://imslp.org/wiki/Sonata_for_Solo_Cello,_Op.8_(Kodály,_Zoltán)
Last edited by Generoso on Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby cypressdome » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:38 am

wrshannon wrote:Is it possible to do a 4-voice keyboard incipit? I tried it with a working Lilypond file, but got nothing but text spread around the page. I could have missed something, of course. It would be nice to have a template if someone (sharper than me) could develop one.


I wonder if using the raw=1 attribute would solve your issue. According to the documentation setting that attribute to 1 will cause the code to be treated as a complete Lilypond file.

As for the template I tried to set one up: Template: Inc primarily so it would place all pages with incipits into a category. I ran into two problems. First, the pipe character within the Lilypond code would have to be replaced with the Template:! and second the result is still displaying the text as if it were code--no image. Two possible explanations for the latter issue: 1. the score extension can't be used within a template. 2. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm leaning toward number 2.

In regards to the issue of text for vocal works being used in the |Incipit= field I don't think that should really be a problem. Would not the end goal be to replace the text-only incipits with ones that incorporated both the text and the music?

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby Eric » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:56 am

If the text appears early enough in the music, and if (unlike me) one knows one's way around LilyPond well enough to know text-setting (though - hrm. The (score- /score) does (seem to) limit what one can do if a LilyPond function requires going outside of a score bracket, e.g. header, book, or other brackets... ... maybe... hrm. ...

another problem is that it's stuck at LilyPond 2.16 (a bit tough to get used to when the project itself is now at 2.18 - not a quibble, since many of the overrides have changed - 2.18's overrides have the format

"(\once) \override x.y = #z" or things like that
while 2.16's are of the form
"(\once) \override x #'y = #z" (e.g.)

so 2.16's "\override Beam #'breakable" (or etc. etc. etc.- not one I've used; I tend to use most often overrides for e.g. dynamics (how long, does it go to or past end of bar; textSpanners (to cause a dashing dash effect of e.g. "poco -- rit. --------" up to a certain point) ... and a certain limited number of others... except as really needed...) probably becomes "\override Beam.breakable", and vice versa. Those now used, like me, to using the software I can install on my computer (the latest stable branch 2.18 - probably no longer fiddling with the development (2.19) versions, for now) will be doing a lot of documentation back-checking to 2.16-fortunately it's all there on the web...

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby wrshannon » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:57 am

Thanks to cypressdome!
This works perfectly:

|Incipit=<score raw="1">
\header { tagline = "" }
global = {
\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f
\key a \minor
\time 4/4
}
\parallelMusic #' (voiceA voiceB voiceC voiceD) {
% 01
d1 |
d1 |
d1 |
d,1 |
% 02
|
|
|
|
% 03
|
|
|
|
% 04
|
|
|
|
}
\score{
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "treble" {
\global \clef treble
<<
\relative c'' \voiceA
\\
\relative c' \voiceB
>>
}
\new Staff = "bass" {
\global \clef bass
<<
\relative c \voiceC
\\
\relative c \voiceD
>>
}
>>
}
</score>

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Re: Mediawiki Score Extension.

Postby imslp » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:00 pm

A couple points:

1. As davydov mentioned on the Template:Inc talk page, the FTE template may cause certain oddities, but {{Inc}} would have been processed prior to the FTE template itself. Actually, I can't seem to make {{Inc}} work in non-FTE tables either (even with {{!}}), so I think it's a table problem, not a FTE problem.

2. We may upgrade to 2.18 in the future - will 2.16 code with with 2.18 as is?


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