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Just want to say Hello!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:39 pm
by Sanft
Hi! I'm a newbee here although I've already contributed to the IMSLP (songs by F. Kuecken and chamber music by Carl Blum). I'm a guitarist and music teacher from Germany and just love opera. Any Britten fans here?
… el niño que soñó la musica

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:42 pm
by emeraldimp
Welcome!

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:43 am
by Vivaldi
Well I'm not exactly a fan of Britten but I do love his Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra (a must for new music students) and Courtly Dances from Gloriana.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:34 am
by Yagan Kiely
Welcome!

[q]Well I'm not exactly a fan of Britten but I do love his Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra (a must for new music students) and Courtly Dances from Gloriana.[/q]*cough*Purcell's melody*xough*

My uni did midsummer's last year.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:27 am
by Crystalviolin
Just want to say Hello!
Hi. Nice to meet you.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:35 am
by danielsanbebe
heheheh after what ive read in a few posts i can tell the peoples hre are real real REAL pros at music, like conductors or professionals. is there any undergraduate, non super expert here, like me?
Please say there is, or ill be scared!

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:11 am
by emeraldimp
danielsanbebe wrote:heheheh after what ive read in a few posts i can tell the peoples hre are real real REAL pros at music, like conductors or professionals. is there any undergraduate, non super expert here, like me?
Please say there is, or ill be scared!
Haha, no fears. I'm just an amateur... my formal training ended with high school, though I still play frequently in community groups.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:44 pm
by aldona
heheheh after what ive read in a few posts i can tell the peoples hre are real real REAL pros at music, like conductors or professionals. is there any undergraduate, non super expert here, like me?
Please say there is, or ill be scared!
I'm definitely an amateur too - the only time I have set foot in a Conservatorium is to do music exams.

We need to encourage more amateurs to get involved and keep doing music - too many people have the impression that music (especially classical) is only for a gifted few and the rest of us shouldn't even try because we don't have what it takes.

"The forest would be a very quiet place if only those birds sang, who sang the best!" (author unknown).

Aldona

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:18 pm
by danielsanbebe
aldona wrote:
heheheh after what ive read in a few posts i can tell the peoples hre are real real REAL pros at music, like conductors or professionals. is there any undergraduate, non super expert here, like me?
Please say there is, or ill be scared!
I'm definitely an amateur too - the only time I have set foot in a Conservatorium is to do music exams.

We need to encourage more amateurs to get involved and keep doing music - too many people have the impression that music (especially classical) is only for a gifted few and the rest of us shouldn't even try because we don't have what it takes.

"The forest would be a very quiet place if only those birds sang, who sang the best!" (author unknown).

Aldona
ur incredibly right! seriously! it wud take a worldwide campaign to do so, but it wud sur be worth it. music has to be played by everyone who feels like doing it. it still exists to show the own feeling of the interpreter, so there is no universally "better" or "worse". what is amazing for other, for me it cant be, and viceversa.

a wonderful, WONDERFUL quote u input in ur message =)

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:05 pm
by Yagan Kiely
I'm not acting as a mod or admin when I say this, but can you please type properly? Type you 'u' and 'wud' into 'you' and 'would'? This isn't a chatroom or msn and you do have the time to formulate your posts into coherent English.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:22 pm
by danielsanbebe
Oh my God, dont tell me you also hate the internet jargon! It´s like the latest trend! Even my violin teacher uses it! I don´t consider it to be wrong, nor a misuse of language. I simply consider it to be a way of abbreviating, making absolutely clear what I mean when using them. It is actually VERY common to see internet jargon, including "formal" abbreviations nowadays, even in this very forum. Why stigmatize? Its kinda (sorry, kind of) like stopping evolution.

Listen to some Jazz too, or some other music; sometimes the musicians play a bit off key. But, havent you?

Was just voicin my opinion, as im sure im entitled to it.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:38 pm
by Sebastian
The latest trend? Writing "u" instead of "you" and so on is nothing new. And claiming it's evolution is quite a theory ;-). There have always been people who didn't care about proper spelling and grammar. For informal sms and chat between friends it's fine, but in a forum like this it's a different matter. Depending on who reads it, it can be interpreted in different ways, e.g. as a sign of illiteracy or impudence. It gives the impression that the author is immature and careless and won't bother to type a few extra letters to make the text more readable.

Have you ever been annoyed by people writing in completely broken engrish, unintelligible slang, leetspeak (13375933|<), ALL CAPS, aLtErNaTiNg CaSe etc.? Or been at a classical concert where someone is talking while the musicians are playing or clapping between movements? It's a bit like that.

You could argue, as you do, that it's not necessarily a misuse of language. Like blue/off-key notes are a part of jazz. That is, in the right context it might be completely acceptable, or even required. But just like blue notes belong in jazz and not in classical, baroque etc. music, the use of "u" etc. doesn't belong everywhere. Which you will learn the hard way if you ever write that in a job application.

Of course you are entitled to voice your opinion. Which you did quite nicely, showing that you are indeed able to write proper English. We are not angry old men who curse and shout every time someone uses one kind of internet jargon or another ;-). We just prefer that people make an effort to make it easy to understand what they're writing. For the above mentioned reasons and many more.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:04 pm
by Leonard Vertighel
I would also like to mention that not everybody on this forum is a native speaker of English. Words like "ur" and "wud" are not found in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. (By the way, according to Merriam-Webster, "wud" is a chiefly Scottish variant of the adjective "wood", meaning "insane, mad".) While presumably intuitive for the native speaker, such words might well be unintelligible for the beginner.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:46 pm
by Lyle Neff
I would add that "u" could be short for either "you" or "ewe," and therefore would require the reader to invoke context to clarify the matter, while using the full spelling would not.

<rant on>

This text-message-style spelling in English is completely inappropriate for this kind of communication environment (a public forum with many participants who do not have English as their first language). My inclination is to simply skip such postings.

<rant off>

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:32 pm
by danielsanbebe
Woooot, controversy!!!! :roll: (just kidding).

To make myself clearer, I will state why am I so into the use of given typing, I formerly participated in a forum for an internet video game, and of course at the beginning I would write all formally and stuff (I am actually nearly a geek at school when it comes to linguistics), and I got "yelled at" for speaking like this. Therefore, the transition came and blah blah blah. It´s not like it makes me suffer to write like this, or whatever, mind you.

I had gotten the point upon reading Yagain Kiely´s post and writing my own; I was just mouthing some humor into the thing, as not to feel too "yelled at" and sad :wink: . It´s "all cool" (quoted) ladies and gentlemen. I, for one, will need to get reused to typing appropriately (actually i have had to correct myself some ten times while writing this current post).

P.S. Are idioms also restricted? If I dare say a real life closing for a conversation?

P.S.S. This is an absolutely wud post (as dear mister Leonard Vertighel cared to define) :lol: Thanks for the aclarations, dudes (dear counterparts).


Peace out! Mwhahahahahaha!