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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:52 pm
by Peter
let's remove all links on IMSLP to the site.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:45 pm
by dekock
Maybe someone at Google would be able to give some advice about what to put in the main page without actually disclosing their page ranking algorithm, if the problem were explained to them. After all, Google claims to be committed to open source.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:45 am
by imslp
It is quite sad to see this happen, but I can see it only as an attempt on their part to try and forestall the ultimate failure of their business model. I would expect any short-term gain (if any) would soon be erased by people realizing what they are. Remember, Wikipedia also has various clones that have google ads stuck on the pages. Especially in this case where IMSLP has vastly more traffic than SMA I don't think they will have any long term effect on IMSLP.

And they are most likely also breaking the law with some of the files they host and likely even their ridiculous blanket claim of copyright, so I would encourage anyone whose copyright the site has infringed to send e-mails and make them realize that what they did is not welcome. I will also send them a letter pointing out their illegal activities including copyright infringement, false advertising, and etc, and legal remedies available to IMSLP.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:11 am
by Peter
A clear message on our homepage with the request of copyright holders to look up if their copyright has been offended at SMA might be appropriate.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:07 pm
by vinteuil
I put a request in the news section - I'm waiting for the main page to be updated.

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:32 pm
by Sean Salamon
I went to SMA and found all of my Noncommercial-licensed music there. They clearly went and copied it all off of IMSLP. However, it was all available to anyone regardless of membership. It looks like what they're doing, though despicable, is legal.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:17 am
by ras1
I think they just changed that in response to our complaints. One of my typesets was there for subscription, but now it's for free download.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:27 am
by Yagan Kiely
Could it not be argued that they are using your pieces as advert, and are thus being used commercially?

They are used as test adverts on a commercial website to advertise (as examples) for it's commercial side.


Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:10 pm
by varnis
As far as i can telll, most of googles ranking is based upon a system weighing incoming links against outgoing links, producing a value similar to SUM OF INCOMING LINKS PAGERANK/OUTCOING LINKS, as such, effectively changing your page position is quite difficult, especially since wikipedia pages have a very low page rank. The only practicable way of doing this is to persuade other people to link to us, permenant page links, that do not die, like news stories. Im sure lots of people here have websites, perhaps linking to us somewhere on your site would help.