Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Moderators: daphnis, kcleung

Starrmark
active poster
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:40 pm
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human
Location: Los Altos, CA
Contact:

Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Starrmark » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:02 pm

Jacques Offenbach was a virtuoso cellist. Early in his career, he composed a considerable amount of music for cello. Aside from several Duo's for 2 cellos, IMSLP has none.

Recently, his Concerto militaire for cello and orchestra -- a work of utterly stupefying virtuosity -- was recorded. Offenbach also wrote a Concerto rondo for cello and orchestra. WHat a coup it would be for IMSLP to locate and post the original scores for these two concerti.

His other works for cello (presumably with piano) include:
Deux âmes au ciel,
Introduction and valse mélancolique,
Rêverie au bord de la mer,
La course en traîneau
Harmonies des bois:
Le soir,
Les larmes de Jacqueline
Les Chants du crépuscule (1846) (Éd. Chaball) – 1.Ballade, 2. L’Adieu, 3. Le Retour, 4. Pas villageois, 5. Sérénade, 6. Souvenir du bal.

It would be great for cellists everywhere to dig up, scan and post these items on IMSLP.

MS

Melodia
active poster
Posts: 421
Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:30 pm

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Melodia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:24 pm

1996 is ''recently''?

The only real hope for the concerti would be copies of the manuscript, they were never published (or at least not any time where they'd be PD).

Also the whole issue with the those two pieces is confusing -- one of the recordings claims that the Concerto-Rondo is the third movement, and uses it for its recording (slightly different from the other two recordiings) but gives no mention of where the third movement used in the other two recordings comes from. There's also the 'original' version of the middle movement.

steltz
active poster
Posts: 1852
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:30 pm
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby steltz » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:26 am

One other piece, a Musette/Air de Ballet, is on IMSLP in the cello/pf version, but it was originally for cello/orchestra.
bsteltz

coulonnus
active poster
Posts: 1109
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:53 am
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human
Location: Nice, France
Contact:

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby coulonnus » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:18 am

Almost all these are present on http://catalogue.bnf.fr but unfortunately they didn't join http://gallica.bnf.fr/ yet. In such a case, BNF as elaborated a new procedure: http://www.amisbnf.org/books.html You can "adopt" a score in the sense that it will be scanned and join Gallica after you've paid a fee! :|

Notenschreiber
active poster
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:31 pm

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Notenschreiber » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:42 pm

@ coulonnus: I´m interested in the 6 symphonies op.1 by Vaclav Pichl, which are at BnF. Have you an idea, what´s the fee for this collection and when it will be avaible after adapting it? Or ist better to buy a pdf, i think for 45 € plus tax ?

coulonnus
active poster
Posts: 1109
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:53 am
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human
Location: Nice, France
Contact:

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby coulonnus » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:39 pm

You can find links to the fees and the process at http://imslpforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7757

Notenschreiber
active poster
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:31 pm

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Notenschreiber » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:43 pm

Yes, i know, this is the process for purchasing pdf´s (for example). But what about these donations for adepting scores?

coulonnus
active poster
Posts: 1109
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:53 am
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human
Location: Nice, France
Contact:

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby coulonnus » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:02 am

http://www.amisbnf.org/books.html The fees are not clearly given but when you click "Livres suggérés par la BnF" "Partitions" you can see examples. Is the French income tax reduction for donations valid for you?

Notenschreiber
active poster
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:31 pm

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Notenschreiber » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:46 am

Thank you for the link with the examples. That seems very expensive, the tax redution is not valid for me, being in Germany. If i see that right, one can order a pdf copy for
45 € plus tax, independent of the number of pages here: https://espacepersonnel.bnf.fr/views/ve ... =catalogue. Do you have any experience with that procedure?

coulonnus
active poster
Posts: 1109
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:53 am
notabot: 42
notabot2: Human
Location: Nice, France
Contact:

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby coulonnus » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:25 am

Notenschreiber wrote:Do you have any experience with that procedure?


Fill the form at Acheter une reproduction. About 3 weeks after you've paid what they ask you, they send you a email with an URL and a code and you fetch your reproduction in pdf format. Afterwards sometimes they make the score available on Gallica because the scanning job has been done. The 45 € are only if the .75 €*nb of pages exceeds 45€. Also see: http://www.bnf.fr/en/collections_and_se ... order.html

Notenschreiber
active poster
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:31 pm

Re: Jacques Offenbach. cellist

Postby Notenschreiber » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:09 am

Thank you very much for your replies, good to know these details. In this special case with the Pichl symphonies i just found another solution. Because i´m mainly interested
in the No.6, i ´m going to order an e-book from BSB with a manuscript copy of this symphony.


Return to “Score Requests”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests