MIT Project: submission of 14,000 scores

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Postby imslp » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:16 pm

The problem is that the files still need to be checked for copyright status and duplication, so it is mainly a difference of putting the information directly in the submission vs. in a table format to be processed by the bot. Considering the number of possible factors (since submitting those files are akin to normal scores from the internet; they have no inherent order or set), a bot may not yield significant benefits. However, I haven't thought much about this, so I may be wrong... if you can think of a way in which the bot can automate the process greatly I think it'd be a fine idea! In the meanwhile I think it should be done normally (manual submission).

By the way, do you want in on the project too? That way you can also check to see if you can automate it somehow. :)

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Postby Peter » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:29 pm

And count me in too! Starting july-august or so.

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Postby Leonard Vertighel » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:49 pm

I can't contribute in the near future, probably not before august/september. But if you nonetheless want to send me the URL, I'd be curious to have a look.

As for the bot, Feldmahler is completely right that it is mainly a difference of putting the information directly in the submission vs. in a table format to be processed by the bot. I have no idea myself if there would be a benefit at all. One could also think of having the bot prepare the spreadsheets with the meta-data that can be extracted from the filenames (though that's only work title and opus, as far as I can tell), and have the users fill in the rest. But this might also be a useless idea, dunno... It would be different if there was some database with a significant amount of meta-data that we could try to match against the file names, but I have no idea if such a thing exists... maybe I'm just talking lots of nonsense.

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Postby imslp » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:04 pm

Well, there is *some* metadata in the file name itself like you say, but I'm not sure that is enough...

In any case, I'll send you both the URL right now :)

The next step now is for someone to actually start working on this project haha ;)

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Postby daphnis » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:16 pm

I wonder if, for the big-name people (and consequently the highest concentration of scores), people could assign themselves the individual folders? I'm going to work my way from the bottom up, but with 'B' for example, someone would have to otherwise tackle Bach, Beethoven and Brahms(!) unless the letters could be divided by certain folders.

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Postby imslp » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:05 pm

This is fine :) We can just split it by the first two letters instead of just one.

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Postby aldona » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:57 pm

I don't have the time or the experience so I'll leave it to those who know what they're doing. :wink:

But 14,000 scores??? :shock: The mind boggles.

It makes my 500-600 Schubert Lieder fade into insignificance.

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Postby Hobbypianist » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:55 am

If it's not too late and you're still looking for people, I can help, too.

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Re: New Project: submission of 14,000 scores

Postby dpajalic » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:44 am

I will be definitely be interested to help with indexing. I can use any data structure (Excel, Access etc). It will be long term project, hey but 10xxx scores added? Super!
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Postby daphnis » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:24 pm

Quite a lot of these scores are not public domain (anywhere), so in actuality there will be substantially less than the 14,000 claimed that will be making their way onto IMSLP.

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Postby Yagan Kiely » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:41 pm

I'd be glad to. Not saying that I'd be able to do a lot per se but I can help a bit. :)

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Postby daphnis » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:39 pm

I wonder if we should have system or registry for indicating, by individual folders or even files, which works (or composers) are not public domain so that people coming in behind us won't think we overlooked them. For example, I've come across composers who have no works in the public domain (at least the works in that folder) and thus that folder would have to be skipped. For now I'm simply keeping a running list of the folders/composers that could not be added, but it may be nice to have an "official" list of sorts on the project page.

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Postby imslp » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:24 pm

I've put up a new page for listing composers who have already been done, so I don't think there is a need to treat those composers specially anymore :)

Dpajalic, ArcticWind, I've put you on the waiting list. Basically, I want to see how this works out first before adding more people to the project. I think the 7 people currently is enough to get the project going; and I really want to check (and iron out) any problems that might arise, and this may be better with fewer people so that coordination doesn't become a problem instead. After things are sorted out I'll add more people :)

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willing to help also

Postby Physicist » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:43 am

I'd be willing to help, albeit in small doses.

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Postby imslp » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:27 pm

I've put you on the waiting list too :) Shouldn't be long before I will add more people to the project.


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